%0 Journal Article %T Welcoming the Sunlight: A Conversation With Mary Kay Zabel and Robert Zabel %A James Teagarden %A Marilyn Kaff %J Intervention in School and Clinic %@ 1538-4810 %D 2018 %R 10.1177/1053451217712970 %X Professors Emeriti Mary Kay and Robert Zabel share their reflections on their long and productive careers working with students and teachers. Their respective careers share much of the same history and complement each other. The Zabels share their advice with those entering the field and the challenges they see for the education of students with emotional/behavioral disorders %K emotional and behavioral %K EBD %K disorders %K BD %K behavior %K Robert Zabel %K Mary Kay Zabel %U https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1053451217712970